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camaropat

Joined Apr 2011Last battle about 1 month agoUpdated
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[BBI] Bataillon Blindé International
Executive Officer · joined Feb 28, 2017
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camaropat's overall stats

StatTotalLast 24hLast 7dLast 30d
Battles55,444000
Tier8.57
Wins28,14850.77%000
Losses26,41947.65%000
Draws8771.58%000
Battles survived15,63628.20%000
Tanks destroyed55,4681.00000
Destruction ratio1.39
Tanks spotted47,6790.86000
Damage dealt1,558.04
Base capture48,7540.88000
Base defense25,3690.46000
Experience713.29
Hit rate60.93%
Personal rating7,256000
World of Tanks Rating6,262000
WN71,206.23
WN81,682.87
WNX1,616.98

camaropat's WNX progression

Solid line is overall WNX (matches the Total column above), drifting slowly as new battles accumulate. Dashed line is per-session WNX, computed from the battles played since the previous snapshot. It shows hot and cold streaks. Line color follows the rating tier.

Tanks shaping camaropat's rating

🚀 Lifting the ratingWNX

Tanks that prop the overall up — dropping them would lower the rating.

  • FV215b (183)
    Tier X· 2,555 battles
    2,074.6025.42 if removed
  • Grille 15
    Tier X· 1,313 battles
    2,135.6114.78 if removed
  • T110E3
    Tier X· 1,375 battles
    1,996.6211.94 if removed
  • Jagdpanzer E 100
    Tier X· 959 battles
    1,998.128.21 if removed
  • Leopard 1
    Tier X· 872 battles
    1,982.357.82 if removed
⚓ Dragging the ratingWNX

Tanks that weigh the overall down — dropping them would raise the rating.

  • T110E5
    Tier X· 1,043 battles
    1,173.33+11.79 if removed
  • Object 261
    Tier X· 1,761 battles
    1,399.26+8.41 if removed
  • M46 Patton
    Tier IX· 420 battles
    859.83+6.97 if removed
  • KV-5
    Tier VIII· 730 battles
    1,065.58+6.87 if removed
  • Bat.-Châtillon 155 58
    Tier X· 715 battles
    1,243.03+5.70 if removed

camaropat's tanks (537)

FV215b 1832,5552,18349.43%2,074.60
M53/M552,4831,71451.75%1,783.59
Skorpion G2,0121,51449.85%1,733.06
Obj. 2611,7611,74053.04%1,399.26
T110E31,3752,38853.38%1,996.62
Grille 151,3132,26748.67%2,135.61
FV40051,1151,92949.78%1,658.31
SU-130PM1,0731,64652.66%1,946.21
T110E51,0431,75946.31%1,173.33
Jg.Pz. E 1009592,24652.66%1,998.12
Leopard 18722,15247.82%1,982.35
T958501,98247.53%1,639.61
T92 HMC8291,72647.41%1,329.59
ISU-152K7831,61753.51%1,796.49
T110E47762,30550.77%1,963.87
KV-57301,19047.81%1,065.58
B-C 155 587151,60350.49%1,243.03
TVP T 50/516841,70744.74%1,377.73
Progetto 466671,37656.22%1,646.19
WT E 1005812,32250.60%1,864.69
Bourrasque5561,32751.62%1,753.90
M48 Patton5451,80347.71%1,256.87
T344871,32648.46%1,387.27
T284641,44254.96%1,405.40
Conqueror GC4281,58251.17%1,227.16
M46 Patton4201,33149.52%859.83
Strv S14091,58349.14%1,713.99
IS-63931,43952.67%1,510.87
Löwe3831,26753.52%1,289.36
T57 Heavy3761,90146.01%1,319.54
B-C 25 t3701,67747.84%1,433.78
T7834497456.40%1,852.12
IS-43341,97847.01%1,161.10
T1433139448.34%407.85
Nomad3251,64656.31%1,924.56
Kpz EK I3122,22254.81%2,307.47
Dicker Max30488053.29%1,724.47
E8 Sherman30058253.67%641.61
GSOR 10082931,65853.24%2,011.28
Obj. 2682922,35050.68%2,166.67
Strv 103B2732,16247.62%1,873.28
M4427194956.09%1,871.95
Škoda T 2526669651.13%1,325.26
G.W. E 1002601,62553.46%1,279.75
AMX 50 B2581,80145.74%1,226.48
WZ-120-1 FT2581,48049.61%1,888.69
IS-72481,73549.19%1,193.03
JgTig.8,8 cm2451,28351.84%1,559.43
E 1002391,87151.88%1,427.09
T302352,25552.34%2,350.56
Lorr. 40 t2311,32845.02%1,669.88
Progetto 652271,95946.26%1,772.99
ELC EVEN 9022366553.81%1,787.18
Ho-Ri 32202,32247.27%2,051.76
KanJPz 1052191,47353.42%1,793.14
T-1032151,46756.28%1,802.29
TS-52131,63558.22%2,285.27
SU-100Y21285158.02%1,435.69
M1032061,62146.60%1,224.05
T6720251054.46%1,006.49
Hellcat20279949.01%1,208.48
Foch 1551982,44846.46%2,460.83
GSOR 10101941,71457.73%2,351.14
ISU-122S1921,13459.38%1,756.98
Pershing18997150.26%717.83
T34 B1891,08945.50%1,094.68
IS-31861,18448.39%1,013.15
Rhm.-B. WT1851,47252.43%1,854.77
Kpz 07 RH1851,11554.59%1,543.09
WZ-113G FT1832,08151.37%1,711.17
M4117375146.82%1,757.92
M4A1 Rev.1731,12658.96%1,200.90
M40/M431721,31647.09%1,437.36
Stridsyxa1722,21953.49%2,897.79
T-101681,46051.79%1,029.78
ISU-1301671,29651.50%1,291.39
FV2071661,15754.22%1,313.72
KV-216394053.37%1,554.43
Type 5 H1622,03953.09%1,397.89
Carro 45 t1582,27751.27%2,037.12
M715730045.86%326.21
TL-71562,17250.64%2,301.57
Lorr. 155 511551,49437.42%1,762.41
IS15474244.81%585.96
Obj. 263B1541,91248.70%
SU-122-4415396652.94%1,232.98
ShPTK-TVP1521,80354.61%2,382.30
Foch B1512,00253.64%1,790.41
Jackson15075046.00%1,221.63
T2914891645.95%784.19
Charioteer1461,43256.16%1,730.21
M10 RBFM14393268.53%2,676.18
AMX Cda 1051431,19551.75%1,167.27
703 II (122)1421,29855.63%1,383.63
Manticore1421,07142.25%1,290.67
Blesk13799155.47%2,378.23
K-911322,06451.52%1,965.87
Char Futur 41291,63151.16%1,840.90
Scorpion1271,08748.03%1,655.20
ASTRON Rex1251,64051.20%2,140.68
Škoda T 271211,19857.02%1,512.03
T3 HMC11940268.07%1,824.67
Mauerbrecher1191,25951.26%1,389.58
Cobra1191,70150.42%1,552.07
T-34-31161,08655.17%1,364.28
Fury11570861.74%1,389.86
50TP pr.1141,23557.02%1,341.26
Concept 51131,87650.44%1,494.60
Strv m/42-5711186553.15%1,400.88
TIII Jäger1102,58452.73%2,720.93
Grille10975557.80%1,829.10
T71 DA10751648.60%492.75
Lansen C1071,08751.40%1,218.85
SU-122-541061,52148.11%
MBT-B1052,17544.76%1,572.66
UDES 15/161041,90449.04%1,525.97
VK 45.031041,05159.62%1,391.49
T26E41021,11347.06%1,252.34
G.W. Tiger P1011,09447.52%1,150.53
Loza's M4-A29977556.57%1,603.18
FV3805981,52351.02%1,549.56
Bishop9770956.70%2,033.52
XM66F961,67938.54%2,084.31
Chrysler GF951,11951.58%1,151.79
FV215b941,64542.55%1,211.87
T499495652.13%1,205.73
Obj. 268/4932,08347.31%1,924.37
Chimera911,68950.55%2,251.24
Achilles8988659.55%1,735.81
E 25891,04356.18%1,694.33
AMX CDC8883451.14%901.16
M12871,35047.13%1,936.18
Badger862,57554.65%2,668.49
T25/28578450.59%748.34
T-1508563060.00%675.77
T 55A851,38851.76%1,514.58
Hummel8383559.04%1,585.97
Kranvagn831,42743.37%931.32
K-91-PT811,82354.32%2,290.20
VK 30.02 D8092157.50%1,815.37
Kpz. 07 P(E)801,48136.25%987.08
STB-1791,47036.71%1,065.12
T25 AT7879847.44%796.87
Thunderbolt7854750.00%897.99
60TP771,68749.35%1,242.69
G.W. Tiger771,44855.84%1,215.49
Škoda T 56761,51640.79%1,564.69
DZT-159761,88260.53%1,915.83
G.W. Panther7597458.67%1,421.54
Hirschkäfer752,67649.33%2,051.05
Obj. 268/5721,84350.00%1,613.26
S. Conqueror711,73349.30%1,265.43
TL-1 LPC701,22861.43%1,684.76
FCM36Pak406980157.97%2,508.84
Jagdtiger691,45349.28%1,200.32
WZ-1116886755.88%771.97
53TP681,34352.94%1,573.46
T326889942.65%603.43
HT No. VI6878252.94%1,242.74
P:Victoria6884754.41%918.27
AMX 13 576859954.41%1,087.84
Type 59671,26549.25%1,606.79
Pz. III E6733764.18%759.38
Conway671,43741.79%1,434.57
T-62A671,48247.76%1,220.75
VK 100.01 P671,19155.22%1,377.32
Indien-Pz.661,21656.06%1,881.55
Obj. 140661,68648.48%1,541.81
VK 75.01 K661,37259.09%1,676.36
T26E56494553.13%905.55
Somua SM641,37545.31%1,394.76
Obj. 252U621,29548.39%1,508.03
Bisonte C45611,31057.38%1,425.31
LT-4325966349.15%1,373.79
T-100 LT5779152.63%921.97
Panther 8,85781449.12%819.46
Pudel5667660.71%1,059.57
Lorr. 155 50561,10346.43%1,413.42
M6A2E1561,11260.71%1,243.14
Steyr WT5699151.79%1,252.36
T15524345.45%129.46
Centurion AX551,91538.18%1,460.15
Type 71552,29945.45%1,840.52
Comet5495961.11%1,617.66
Vz. 55531,94854.72%1,515.60
STA-25384747.17%791.61
AT 15A5394643.40%1,466.98
T-34-15271148.08%1,056.76
VK 36.01 H5285046.15%1,416.28
B-C 25 t AP521,43963.46%1,223.97
T-44-100521,14148.08%1,248.83
Super Hellcat5299948.08%1,942.80
Pz.Jäg. I5120443.14%504.21
45TP501,10158.00%1,365.21
O-Ho501,37248.00%1,423.02
T54E1501,56842.00%1,147.11
WT auf Pz. IV501,80646.00%1,760.15
AMX M4 49501,07544.00%1,103.99
WZ-111 5A491,70648.98%1,099.88
Mäuschen491,61851.02%1,745.20
T924958646.94%1,148.86
Char Murat482,07747.92%2,072.03
Standard B472,06268.09%2,501.01
Jg.Pz. IV4688663.04%1,560.57
EBR 1054659547.83%646.44
Obj. 277461,63141.30%1,295.11
Renegade461,53363.04%1,781.72
Hetzer4522242.22%246.19
Crusader SP4598648.89%1,501.58
IS-24582857.78%849.36
Churchill III4453247.73%800.97
SU-76M4334346.51%599.78
T204263552.38%498.35
O-I4261457.14%773.61
Felice421,77750.00%1,732.03
AMX AC 464276426.19%756.18
Guard4287635.71%952.55
Caliban421,06142.86%984.02
Tornvagn421,34750.00%1,313.02
Skorpion421,50040.48%1,605.32
O-Ni411,07234.15%1,354.17
SU-8411,52751.22%3,120.00
T-832411,50056.10%1,607.64
AMX 50 100401,22642.50%1,337.60
Type 4 H391,53148.72%1,149.28
Ho-Ri 2391,61451.28%2,139.69
Ho-Ri 1391,93158.97%2,166.55
E 75391,28833.33%1,029.82
M8A13950361.54%1,232.33
M-V-Y391,43341.03%960.99
L.Tr.386360.53%21.97
Conqueror381,96957.89%1,935.86
212A381,41452.63%1,177.37
VK 45.02 A381,21163.16%1,575.52
SU-85I3866763.16%1,531.32
112381,00055.26%1,027.19
Chi-To3771451.35%1,324.43
AMX 13 753750654.05%366.31
Kunze Panzer371,50354.05%1,415.16
CS-52 LIS371,18848.65%1,356.81
Emil II361,27547.22%1,089.94
SU-1003672947.22%1,152.96
UDES 03361,18350.00%1,127.48
Pz. IV H3642244.44%917.27
STG361,18855.56%1,469.61
FV4202361,05033.33%1,296.74
Excalibur3682347.22%1,373.30
Emil I351,12465.71%1,138.37
SMV CC-67351,06257.14%1,057.78
leFH18B23446238.24%685.63
Strv 103-0341,52655.88%1,162.63
Foch341,85250.00%1,840.63
AMX AC 48341,55055.88%2,065.60
M-IV-Y341,40152.94%1,494.01
Minotauro331,79351.52%1,511.47
Obj. 704332,23245.45%2,237.42
Obj. 430U332,00139.39%1,755.34
Obj. 705A331,64639.39%1,068.33
Škoda T 403375851.52%1,470.90
122 TM331,33348.48%1,766.00
WZ-120321,26446.88%1,050.04
Tortoise321,68937.50%1,583.21
AE Phase I321,10250.00%808.35
P.44 Pantera311,03045.16%1,211.95
Šelma311,01432.26%1,471.80
Pz. 58 Mutz3181929.03%810.98
Type 643136241.94%782.12
SU-14-2301,54350.00%1,844.78
SMV CC-563087443.33%1,259.69
Coccodrillo302,57446.67%2,195.19
Kilana301,21653.33%1,252.48
WZ-111-1 FT3096150.00%788.68
Centurion I2994737.93%1,214.30
Pz. III/IV2938048.28%996.14
Marder II2928555.17%423.71
WZ-131G FT2980551.72%1,325.10
Leopard 120292,50944.83%1,988.78
Defender291,21062.07%1,251.26
VK 168.01 P291,08851.72%1,343.24
Pz. B22936051.72%617.96
T1287842.86%29.14
Leopard2822557.14%515.29
T28 Prototype281,80242.86%1,992.61
Obj. 260281,95946.43%1,347.96
Projet Louis281,35542.86%2,937.24
IMT281,34642.86%1,633.52
1102782659.26%592.70
M3 Lee278959.26%21.06
Ikv 90 B271,08051.85%1,388.41
VK 45.02 B271,31244.44%1,292.69
Sheridan2763544.44%459.91
Windhund272,13259.26%3,033.38
50TP261,66565.38%1,622.50
T-34-2G FT2683257.69%1,069.76
SU-101261,25265.38%1,139.72
KV-12622746.15%100.52
E 50 M261,11650.00%772.64
IS-M261,39453.85%1,632.45
Obj. 274a2691734.62%969.96
E 75 TS261,43665.38%1,578.46
T-54 mod. 1261,28446.15%1,764.00
T56 GMC2526960.00%404.74
Cruiser II2521952.00%260.14
BZT-70252,56760.00%1,835.22
Grom251,27056.00%1,187.81
Type 63251,09844.00%1,103.82
CS-442466833.33%853.63
Luchs2436962.50%900.91
T372444945.83%961.21
GSOR 1006/7241,23137.50%1,166.77
Obj. 430241,72454.17%1,860.09
Locust2423066.67%584.89
Rinoceronte231,50039.13%857.52
Type 582359665.22%982.25
AMBT231,75256.52%2,039.84
Bret. Panther2383460.87%1,532.99
AT 15221,37345.45%1,338.70
Caernarvon AX221,02840.91%1,037.80
Chi-Ri2192442.86%1,336.08
40TP2189557.14%1,786.18
Tiger II211,38157.14%1,897.27
M372010230.00%37.34
UDES 162089645.00%632.51
SMV M412060855.00%1,482.99
Chi-To SP201,60750.00%3,295.88
ISU-1522091865.00%696.79
Pz.Kpfw. VII201,97665.00%1,376.13
Leo1988147.37%1,246.32
M5A1 Stuart1924068.42%889.88
T691980852.63%477.32
KPz 3 Pr.07HK192,11263.16%2,253.96
HWK 301957363.16%1,015.97
T-341836355.56%570.14
CS-531879055.56%764.13
SU-51877050.00%3,107.50
BZ-68181,51150.00%1,444.65
Chaffee1821144.44%150.55
BZ-581868327.78%460.01
SU-100M1181,17455.56%1,503.26
ARL V391885938.89%1,271.97
AMX 50 120171,25935.29%1,028.82
St. Emil171,16547.06%1,833.63
Saladin171,17358.82%1,633.28
Ikv 1031638862.50%744.68
B.U.G.I.1687137.50%1,465.19
Pz. III J1634068.75%637.92
AMX 13 F31686162.50%1,567.22
AMX 13 901680762.50%888.74
Gonkiewicza161,95531.25%1,961.47
Maus161,29531.25%636.64
Ji-Ro161,03343.75%2,089.68
Gowika161,06456.25%1,339.21
Cromwell1553760.00%609.71
Churchill I1594546.67%1,881.65
121151,51353.33%1,124.26
Škoda T 171542833.33%512.77
WZ-111G FT152,08246.67%2,057.85
VK 28.011560253.33%2,407.32
Hacker152,98346.67%2,484.25
Obsidian151,02946.67%959.45
Vz. 44-11460942.86%548.40
CS-63141,03650.00%817.36
SU-76G FT1463457.14%1,984.75
60G FT1453885.71%1,247.89
EBR 75 FL 101465750.00%1,501.99
Pz. T 251445750.00%1,360.03
Eagle 71486835.71%1,161.25
StuG IV1443428.57%870.87
T-34-21358838.46%382.93
Ikv 721326430.77%435.91
Ho-Ni III1385969.23%2,669.49
Panther II1358138.46%494.58
AT 21343669.23%614.02
BZ-75131,18823.08%509.33
Type 57131,23238.46%1,070.52
FV3041388361.54%1,733.82
VK 30.01 D1361238.46%926.40
AMX M4 51131,16930.77%911.81
T-54 ltwt.1371553.85%443.11
Obj. 705131,47753.85%1,361.96
ST-II131,59753.85%1,004.61
Wolverine1235750.00%347.74
VK 30.02 M1241858.33%609.39
Ares 90122,19766.67%2,488.26
IS-2-II1291550.00%877.99
Chi-Ha1144081.82%1,082.87
Błyskawica111,06045.45%966.69
Valentine AT1140063.64%827.61
AMX 65 t1184954.55%513.07
AMX 13 105111,38054.55%1,574.39
Tiger I1076250.00%872.23
Strv 741065340.00%979.29
P.431065640.00%1,726.10
TNH 105/1000101,25370.00%1,324.53
Tesák1046160.00%541.45
GSOR TANK101,70040.00%1,900.19
T2 Light109030.00%15.45
M4A1 FL 101073020.00%1,243.43
Type 62955544.44%912.16
STA-1995033.33%1,678.50
KV-8591,11233.33%1,833.13
Sav m/43934022.22%963.24
AMX 13 AM942077.78%708.66
O-I Exp.957433.33%1,050.11
AMX M4 4591,33577.78%1,788.23
Tiger (P)950422.22%309.04
M6091,89333.33%1,514.72
EMIL 1951992555.56%698.91
TKS 20818150.00%200.58
Progetto 54841112.50%153.89
St.Pz. II846725.00%1,656.69
Burza889175.00%1,575.32
Zadymka856450.00%1,036.11
SU-26844150.00%2,105.54
Nashorn81,01875.00%2,190.92
Leopard PT A81,67062.50%1,478.13
Canopener81,78862.50%1,287.81
Jg.Pz. E 9082,33512.50%2,055.41
M48 RPz881737.50%307.69
Ram II858712.50%1,280.43
Centurion 5/1891562.50%1,088.22
IS-3A81,19437.50%976.96
M4 Sherman768457.14%1,898.78
AMX 40721128.57%172.62
M3G FT740871.43%946.32
Lynx 6x6744771.43%624.48
EBR 90796257.14%2,059.45
T42746428.57%366.47
T77792542.86%551.45
T-34/100655366.67%574.13
P.43 bis646050.00%707.99
T1 HMC610550.00%428.43
Bassotto686433.33%1,215.84
Type T-34649233.33%903.92
CC-1 Mk. 261,65050.00%1,148.19
KV-3664550.00%411.75
AT 7645316.67%173.03
PTZ-7861,83333.33%729.69
Pawlack Tank640766.67%228.44
T-34-85M654433.33%964.37
Type 61591160.00%619.50
Centurion 7/151,62160.00%1,593.20
BZ-16651,55960.00%1,381.16
AT 8580060.00%926.29
E 5058380.00%555.61
Pz. I C511440.00%117.48
AMX 30 B589960.00%876.47
T-50-2541940.00%1,486.74
AC 4 Exp.576620.00%1,638.24
Peacekeeper51,87480.00%1,851.97
Strv fm/21419475.00%172.48
R. Otsu410725.00%124.41
NC-314201100.00%298.80
25TP431025.00%140.24
VAE Type B4191100.00%222.87
ARL 44431425.00%100.18
Type 95424825.00%325.89
AT-1418725.00%355.34
Dravec41,89625.00%1,150.97
A-4343480.00%325.87
Archer459525.00%1,092.41
MT-25425850.00%223.66
T 54D41,17525.00%464.03
Pz. T 15411450.00%34.26
M41D487450.00%1,359.30
FCM 50 t439850.00%288.46
FT312666.67%126.00
Pz. 35 (t)319566.67%211.63
M63536100.00%759.89
P.43 ter336366.67%489.71
WZ-111 1-431,144100.00%841.39
Ikv 65 II39440.00%1,499.75
SU-183251100.00%2,072.64
Churchill VII359666.67%686.82
T-26G FT38466.67%294.77
T40312933.33%34.36
FT AC31040.00%32.49
Ju-Nu34000.00%100.64
T-50321466.67%48.90
Challenger369566.67%680.39
Pz.Sfl. IVc335433.33%606.98
AMX M4 5431,01266.67%436.30
FSV Sch. A398066.67%1,210.70
Conceiver3738100.00%543.06
Matilda IV339166.67%775.08
Pz. IV S.353366.67%287.04
TT-130M399866.67%352.90
K-housenka23750.00%1,142.51
Pz. II245150.00%1,056.01
Chi-Ha2109100.00%0.09
Te-Ke27050.00%0.00
WZ-13125680.00%694.02
UC 2-pdr2321100.00%1,113.11
M4A3E2242250.00%503.07
T-602112100.00%161.49
M-II-Y253050.00%163.93
IS-2S248550.00%213.12
T-116275350.00%3,654.16
TS-621,088100.00%532.81
Super Chaffee276250.00%1,553.22
Pz. S352134100.00%3.99
Brennos21,290100.00%1,308.06
Bison1203100.00%510.54
MS-1100.00%0.00
Pz. 38 (t)11200.00%55.72
Lorr. 39L AM1311100.00%1,102.04
M7 Priest1390.00%42.36
SAu 4012230.00%218.15
T23E31803100.00%983.21
Pz. I197100.00%421.95
SU-122A15980.00%755.04
KV-1S13660.00%107.12
Obj. 26311,758100.00%1,426.83
IS-3-II1399100.00%348.55
Ares 7512,029100.00%5,586.33
E 65 Zwilling15980.00%80.58
H310100.00%2.08
MKA1340100.00%709.64
Patton Tank17640.00%705.47
TBT12,569100.00%3,312.13
T-1271213100.00%466.65
T1E611560.00%136.00
Matilda BP12750.00%587.78
TOG II*11630.00%0.00
KV-220-219750.00%1,866.63
Excelsior11020.00%23.40
Sexton I13670.00%873.32
Light VIC150100.00%2.08
FV201 (A45)14440.00%108.61
A4615490.00%846.57
Cromwell B13180.00%165.06
AMX ELC 9011503100.00%687.14
Firefly VC14630.00%211.91
AMX 13 FL 1115120.00%1,079.52
KV-4 KTTS100.00%0.00
59-Patton12500.00%109.29
Fantôme11,727100.00%2,165.02

camaropat's clans history

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